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Quo Vadis Pakistan?

March 5, 2009

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Zardari defends cease-fire in volatile Pakistan region

An Appendage Of The Al Qaeda, The Taliban Now Has Its Own Agenda For Pakistan’ (An Interview)
Ahmed Rashid, author of a book on the Taliban, tells HARINDER BAWEJA that even India needs to worry enormously (Excerpt )
Q . How do you read the ceasefire pact with the Taliban?
Ans.It can be serious. We have had a spate of ceasefires, which have been very controversial. They have been opposed by a large section of the population because the ceasefires are only seen as a consolidation of the Taliban and their spread to other areas. On the other hand, other people are saying that it will bring peace and improve the justice system in the Swat valley. These may be short-term gains, but the longterm implications of this ceasefire are very very dangerous for the country. I think the fact that the state has been willing to change the legal system in Swat is a very bad precedent for the future. And something like that has not happened even in Afghanistan where the Taliban have controlled many provinces. But the state has never compromised with the Constitution and the legal system. So talking to the Taliban is one thing. It is necessary. But to talk to them and accede very hastily to accepting some of their demands regarding Sharia is a very serious risk .

Q.Does it bother you that Pakistan and Afghanistan are now being mentioned together?
Ans.Well, I think it certainly bothers a lot of people, especially in the establishment. But I think it’s fair enough because neither country can deal with this issue alone. The fact is that there are Pakistani Taliban fighting in Afghanistan and there are Afghan Taliban fighting in Pakistan. I think it would very immature for us to be in a state of denial about that. The Afghans are not in denial about that but elements in Pakistan certainly are.

Q. They are literally 150km from Islamabad. Right?
Ans. Yes. And they are spreading south. And the danger is that they will use Swat as a base to spread south of the valley and then closer towards the capital.

To read the rest of the interview go here
Related Reading :- The Devil In The Backyard

US voices dismay over Pakistan deal with Taliban

Foreign hand involved in Lahore attack, says Zardari
While Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari has promised that Pakistan would deal with acts of terror with an iron hand, the country’s PM told a visiting FBI team that evidence of an external link in Tuesday’s attacks had been found.

Critics in the West and Pakistan fear that by agreeing to introduce sharia in Swat, where militants have burned down schools for girls and conducted public executions, the government has risked encouraging the Islamist militants by adopting policies of appeasement.

We won’t negotiate with Taliban: Pakistan’s Zardari
SINGAPORE (Reuters) – Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari said that his government will not negotiate with Taliban militants, adding that the attack on the Sri Lankan cricket team showed the evil the country faced.

Muttiah hits out
Sri Lanka spinner Muttiah Muralitharan on Thursday hit-out at the security arrangements in Pakistan in the wake of the deadly terror attack on his team bus in Lahore and suspected militants had inside information about their movement.
The off-spinner said he thought Tharanga Paranavitana, who along with Thilan Samaraweera was one of the more seriously wounded players, would die from his injuries.

Paranavitana had a bullet lodged in his chest while Samaraweera had a shrapnel in his right leg. “There were gun shots going on and the bullets were passing us. I saw Paranavitana was bleeding in the chest. I thought he was gone, actually. Thilan Samaraweera was bleeding, Kumar Sangakkara was bleeding from the shoulder. There was blood everywhere. It was frightening,” he said.
Both Paranavitana and Samaraweera were operated upon after they reached Colombo on Thursday and were known to be recovering.
Meanwhile the Fourth umpire Ahsan Raza is still in a critical condition and is fighting for his life.

Report: Pakistani official admits security lapse

And a different viewpoint below
The intelligence report released by The News raises some disturbing questions about the role of Pakistan’s pro-U.S. government in letting the Indian attack on the Sri Lankan team in Lahore happen despite the advance warning by Pakistani intelligence officials.

and finally some sane voices..

Pakistan: Somalia comparisons should worry India too
If it was Sri Lankan cricketers in Lahore on Tuesday, it could just as easily have been a foreign team in Amritsar, just over the border in India. Amritsar is very near Lahore, writes former Indian ambassador M.K Bhadrakumar , and it doesn’t really matter any more on which side of the border the attack took place. The grim reality is both are faced with the same threat and it won’t help India to pretend otherwise or sit tight while Pakistan unravels, he says.

India and Pakistan will survive or sink together, and it doesn’t really matter whether it is Pakistan or India that resembles Somalia.



Now the links given below will illustrate properly I hope ,as to why Pak Tea House and Lahore Nama are balanced voices and need to be on your blogroll.
If you want a sane ,balanced view (we have a shortage of it in India as well,never fear) of Pakistan this is it.

Pakistan: from bleak to bleaker?
Pakistan escaped one of the biggest embarrassments when gunmen failed to kill the whole Sri Lankan cricket squad in a daring broad daylight operation.Eight of the brave policemen laid their lives in saving the guests. If it were not for their actions, we may have stared at a screaming headline like “Sri-Lankan cricket team slaughtered”, or “Terrorists wipe out the visiting cricket team; darkest day in sports history”.

Tragedy in Lahore
Whoever it is is killing off Pakistan slowly but surely. For all of our bold claims that “cricketers and sportsmen have nothing to fear”, from today onwards no cricket team or any other sports team will ever visit this country.

We don’t know who did it. We don’t know and don’t care which “foreign” hand was behind it. What we know is that no one can manipulate a people who are not ready to be manipulated. We must take stock of this situation, before we lose our homeland for ever.


Suicide democrats
Sadly, law, rights and constitutionalism are personalised through the idolisation of the deposed chief justice, as if Pakistan were still a mediaeval kingdom, where the bad King (Musharraf) had to be overthrown, and the good Qazi (Justice Iftikhar) had to be “restored” and vested with all moral, political, executive, military and judicial powers.

And this last one which brings home the fact that they too are just like us…what have they ,the ordinary Pakistanis done to deserve this?

Lahore was sad today
Raza Rumi
What a sad day it was – a city that usually glows with spring colours and crisp air was a death-zone. Everyone was afraid and depressed after the morning killings. The wound is far deeper than it appears. It has to do with how our country is moving towards anarchy and mayhem. And, we all continue to be bystanders at best screaming spectators. There were brave policemen today which was a silver lining. These men of courage offered their lives to protect the guests from Sri Lanka. Cricket fans were devastated for what will happen to the favourite sport? Who will come to Pakistan.
But more importantly, this is not what Lahoris and Pakistanis deserve. The great games outside and inside have made us hostage to grand,vested interests. About time, we spoke about it and registered that we count.
Apologies to the people of Sri Lanka. We tried to protect your team but failed. Hope you will understand that we are now unable to protect ourselves.

39 Comments leave one →
  1. Anrosh permalink
    March 5, 2009 5:17 am

    have you wondered this could be a doing of the US.

    I attended a talk by an FBI agent who said that they use pakistanis themselves to create a havoc. Taking advantage of the fact that there is a constant violence in pakistance US is using it to its own advantage. creating more divide and rule, supplying arms, showing support to flush the taliban but using it as a double edged sword here.

    (every trade talk in the US now starts with the sentence – rising economies of india and china)

    and so is the US trying to disrupt the rising india by creating social, political crisis down india ?

    this sri lankan attack could well be masterminded by the FBI itself.

    i can only begin to wonder?

  2. Vinod_Sharma permalink
    March 5, 2009 5:22 am

    Very nice and informative collection. Lot of hard work put in to get such varied sources and opinions.

    The only danger I see here is that unlike in India, the isolated, sane voices of Pakistan’s English media are not representative of what is happening at the grassroots level. So, basing our opinions and assessment on what they say and how they feel will lead us into the wrong alley.

    We need to remain alert to the voices that come from beyond them because they are the ones that are setting the agenda of Pakistan. And they are the ones we will have to physically face and defeat. Good to remember that all the time, without getting sentimental. They are not.

  3. Ordinary Guy permalink
    March 5, 2009 6:26 am

    “En guard” India….😦 is all I can say….

  4. Indyeah permalink
    March 5, 2009 6:56 am

    Anrosh:-in this mad world of intrigues and political games who knows?might well be the case…and we would come to know 50 years hence..one never knows really

    well..yeah it does amze me at times as to how so many countires dont like India getting the upper hand in anything…
    China def doesnt..
    Pakistan is well self explanatory…Bangaldesh and Nepal think India acts like a big brother

    and who knows about Bhutan and Myanmar though the former seems friendly enough..

    Its target India time everywhere one turns….and the sad part is we are not even nowwhere close to the India shining that the world percieves us to be (based on bangalorisation and all)

    I agree that the US is quite capable of doing a lot…how far would it go..only time will answer…

  5. Da Eternal Rebel permalink
    March 5, 2009 6:56 am

    For the first time I am having a feeling that a strong and stable Pakistan is needed for an India free of headache. Time that the Security Agencies wake and give the call – “Barbarians at the gates !!!”

  6. Indyeah permalink
    March 5, 2009 7:00 am

    Vinod sir:-thank you:)
    yes completely understand your point..one shouldnt get bogged down in sentimentality when it comes to a threat as real as Pakistan has become today to India too….
    lahore bus yatra and Kargil are still fresh in our minds…

    very very true sir they are not represenatative of Pakistan as a whole..
    its just that its so hard to find one sane voice from that country that these seem like a huge find..

    but yes agree that India and we shouldnt get taken in again and remain alert always…these are really trying times..

  7. Indyeah permalink
    March 5, 2009 7:05 am

    Ajit:-yes…and India does indeed have to remain on guard..sometimes its just scary to think how this could spill over into our country…

    the ‘en guard ‘was brilliant Ajit
    been ages since I heard it..

    yes India has to remain really really alert..
    as it is we have so many blasts and such bloodshed I shudder to think of how further this could go

  8. Indyeah permalink
    March 5, 2009 7:10 am

    Da Eternal Rebel:-yes a stable and strong Pakistan…seemms like a far fetched dream now…really hope that some miracle occurs…like I said before…a stable Pakistan =a stable India=stable world(or atleast our part of it)the subcontinent

    but I really fail to see how India can do so directly ..its next to impossible…

    furthermore when Pakistan itself is in denial about the brutal reality its hard to do anything…

    yeah ‘barbarians at the gates’…but Pakistan has to realize it and its own agencies ahve to give this call

    ..and sadly, our ‘barbarians’ are their good and bad talibanis(really its the height of dumbness on Pakistan’s aprt or whoever coined these phrases)

  9. freespirit permalink
    March 5, 2009 7:40 am

    I agree with Anrosh. We’ve seen time and again what U.S. intervention means, where it begins and ends they only know. I don’t believe this policy is confined solely to India, the middle-east is also at great risk.

    On a lighter vein, I adore the new banner! So colourful and vibrant, diverse yet forming a whole, so Indyeah!

  10. Pangala Nagendra Rao permalink
    March 5, 2009 8:29 am

    What Anrosh says is really true. Even I heard same facts from many sources. After all Taliban, Al-queda etc are once supported by US itself in order to divide and weaken the USSR. Same principle is applied with us also so that we do not come up. And it is clear now that Pakistan is existing because of USA.
    At the same time I do not say every Pakistani is against humanity or against India in particular as such. But since people with narrow minded are over powered by “external sources” and motivated by “internal sources” their wish rules the name sake democratic nation called Pakistan. It is clear from the agreements with Taliban on cease fire.
    It may also be true that the civilian government is now handicapped and helpless from all the side. It can not able to counter the fanatic people groups inside it as those people are the major part of Military system and also neither government can keep quite on the activities of these groups inside and outside its soil because of international pressure.
    In all the above cases I think what Da Eternal Rebel says that for the welfare of India and rest of the world and most importantly for Pakistanis, Pakistan must at least come out of clutches of both US and fanatic groups with the democratic government ruling the Pakistan in real sense.

  11. Indian Home Maker permalink
    March 5, 2009 4:37 pm

    Indyeah we are going out again (I actually wish to go nowhere which is a sure sign of addiction …)

    And I will come back and read this in detail, but my general opinion/reaction is summed up by Ajit and Da Eternal Rebel.

    Also Pak is a Nuclear power can’t imagine what might happen if Taliban gets control … I wonder if America will take a chance like that. I think America might prefer a strong India to counter China.
    I think it is for the best – for everybody that Pakistan finds stability. (if wishes were horses)
    … just an aam aadmi’s opinions🙂

  12. Gopinath's "Artickles" permalink
    March 5, 2009 5:56 pm

    Only a strong leader can pull Pakistan out of the chaos and imminent ruination. But do we see anyone who can do that? The chaotic conditions will be exploited by many perpetrators. I see hordes of refugees will cross the porous borders into India – and we need to see that what happened when Bangladeshis crossed over does not repeat again. That is only our hope. I see things getting much worse before they can get any better.

  13. Gopinath's "Artickles" permalink
    March 5, 2009 5:56 pm

    Only a strong leader can pull Pakistan out of the chaos and imminent ruination. But do we see anyone who can do that? The chaotic conditions will be exploited by many perpetrators. I see hordes of refugees will cross the porous borders into India – and we need to see that what happened when Bangladeshis crossed over does not repeat again. That is only our hope. I see things getting much worse before they can get any better.

  14. Gopinath's "Artickles" permalink
    March 5, 2009 5:56 pm

    Only a strong leader can pull Pakistan out of the chaos and imminent ruination. But do we see anyone who can do that? The chaotic conditions will be exploited by many perpetrators. I see hordes of refugees will cross the porous borders into India – and we need to see that what happened when Bangladeshis crossed over does not repeat again. That is only our hope. I see things getting much worse before they can get any better.

  15. Gopinath's "Artickles" permalink
    March 5, 2009 5:56 pm

    Only a strong leader can pull Pakistan out of the chaos and imminent ruination. But do we see anyone who can do that? The chaotic conditions will be exploited by many perpetrators. I see hordes of refugees will cross the porous borders into India – and we need to see that what happened when Bangladeshis crossed over does not repeat again. That is only our hope. I see things getting much worse before they can get any better.

  16. Gopinath's "Artickles" permalink
    March 5, 2009 5:56 pm

    Only a strong leader can pull Pakistan out of the chaos and imminent ruination. But do we see anyone who can do that? The chaotic conditions will be exploited by many perpetrators. I see hordes of refugees will cross the porous borders into India – and we need to see that what happened when Bangladeshis crossed over does not repeat again. That is only our hope. I see things getting much worse before they can get any better.

  17. Gopinath's "Artickles" permalink
    March 5, 2009 5:56 pm

    Only a strong leader can pull Pakistan out of the chaos and imminent ruination. But do we see anyone who can do that? The chaotic conditions will be exploited by many perpetrators. I see hordes of refugees will cross the porous borders into India – and we need to see that what happened when Bangladeshis crossed over does not repeat again. That is only our hope. I see things getting much worse before they can get any better.

  18. Gopinath's "Artickles" permalink
    March 5, 2009 5:56 pm

    Only a strong leader can pull Pakistan out of the chaos and imminent ruination. But do we see anyone who can do that? The chaotic conditions will be exploited by many perpetrators. I see hordes of refugees will cross the porous borders into India – and we need to see that what happened when Bangladeshis crossed over does not repeat again. That is only our hope. I see things getting much worse before they can get any better.

  19. Gopinath's "Artickles" permalink
    March 5, 2009 5:56 pm

    Only a strong leader can pull Pakistan out of the chaos and imminent ruination. But do we see anyone who can do that? The chaotic conditions will be exploited by many perpetrators. I see hordes of refugees will cross the porous borders into India – and we need to see that what happened when Bangladeshis crossed over does not repeat again. That is only our hope. I see things getting much worse before they can get any better.

  20. Indyeah permalink
    March 5, 2009 8:06 pm

    Freespirit:-yes,you are right ..US intervention always spells doom ,be it anywhere in the world for whatever reasons…and while right now we are not able to spell it out clearly as to what exactly the role of the US is ..I do think 25-30 years or more down the line,we will find some non-Pakistani hands behind this mayhem…

    what really puzzles me and supports this theory(I know the US theory sounds mad to everyone today)is that the US has continued giving PAkistan financial aid…why?Obama has just sanctioned even more help..

    Thanks Freespirit:))
    loved your words:))and so Indyeah?awww:))
    ((hugs))thank you:))

  21. Indyeah permalink
    March 5, 2009 8:14 pm

    Pangala Narendra Rao:-

    ”At the same time I do not say every Pakistani is against humanity or against India in particular as such. But since people with narrow minded are over powered by “external sources” and motivated by “internal sources” their wish rules the name sake democratic nation called Pakistan. It is clear from the agreements with Taliban on cease fire. ”
    absolutely Narendra!

    understand what you mean about the ordinary Pakistanis..they too are a part of Pakistan at the end of the day arent they?so yes they too are to be held responsible as faras holding a ‘nation’ responsible is concerned..

    Pakistan has wayy too many power centres…and the civilian govt seems a mockery of a word now…

    yes all of us are praying and hoping that Pakistan somehow in some way comes out of this and starts on a path of true democracy…

    Thanks for dropping In Narendra..your comment brought a lot to the topic:)

  22. Indyeah permalink
    March 5, 2009 8:26 pm

    IHM:-LOl@”(I actually wish to go nowhere which is a sure sign of addiction …)”
    😀

    yes completely agree that India has to be on guard…the time to debate where Pakistan is going and how is past…its time to take steps to ensure that we dont get caught in the middle..

    India is every Indian’s first priority..and yes we can only hope that they find stability….

    I think all aam Indians are thinbking just like you:))

  23. Indyeah permalink
    March 5, 2009 8:29 pm

    Gopinath Sir:-yes sir they sorely lack such a leader,one who can stop Pakistan from its downward slide ..

    and there are none to be seen on the horizon either

    yes the refugee problem can happen and will happen if things continue like this…the fact that this will spill over into India is worrying..

    one can only hope that things will get better in Pakistan if only for our sake..

  24. manju permalink
    March 5, 2009 9:26 pm

    Great compilation of news reports, Indyeah.!

    Scary times indeed for India.
    We should remember that we cannot really trust anyone but ourselves in such a situation.

  25. Chirag permalink
    March 5, 2009 10:48 pm

    This is definitely disturbing in the longer run, if we have a disturbed nation as a neighbor. India and China need to collaborate for a change and solve the bigger problem at hands. As, they say, stitch in time saves…

  26. Biju Mathews permalink
    March 6, 2009 5:07 am

    Nice work in putting them all together!

    This is the first time no one has claimed responsibility for the attacks. This is very unusual. The country’s lawless north-west region along the border with Afghanistan has hundreds of tribes some pledged to Al-Qaeda and some to Taliban. The Pakistan judiciary has no control over these regions. Mushraff was the only man with balls to atleast attempt to break the synergy between drugs, weapons trade and muslim radicals. Anyway, a very bad political battle is evident in the form of Nawab Sheriff, Imran Khan and not to mention the possiblity of a over throw of the government by the military. Who is responsible, only time will tell. If this is internal maybe they would blame the forged de facto with the Al-qaeda and make a hoo-boo. I’m glad that atleast they didn’t play the dirty game and blame India. Let’s see!!

    Keep Blogging!

  27. Solilo permalink
    March 6, 2009 5:38 am

    I really don’t know what to write, Abhi. Everything has been said here and on other places.

    I don’t know what and how we are going to come out of it. Why is South Asia turning into a difficult place to live? Some questions no answers.

    Thanks for a well researched post and links.

  28. churningthewordmill.wordpress.com permalink
    March 6, 2009 7:10 am

    in keeping with the great level of randomness i have recently depicted, i wil begin commenting with unrelated issues. loved the header!!!!!!!!nice and bright!:D
    now about pak and terrorism. loads of ppl commenting to saying US supported terrorism first and now doesnt know how to deal with it. heard that opinion from lots of family and friends so there mite be some truth in it. but the point is we are all paying a high price for it. thats the really sad part. if we have created a monster we cant control, where do u think we are going with this?

  29. Kislay permalink
    March 6, 2009 9:25 am

    There was this Pakistani, I read about once, who proposed that Pakistan should be divided into five parts , Sindh,Baloschistan,Punjab,Tribal and Pok , for the good of the rest of the world . Seems that the time has come .

  30. Charakan permalink
    March 6, 2009 9:35 am

    Indyeah,hope you do not mind a long comment.I do not have the time or energy to write a post to tell my views,thats why.
    Good Post. It is always worth remembering that those across the border are very similar to us in many ways.Sane voices from Pakistan,which are many do not get as much coverage in our sensationalism hungry media.Thank you for highlighting them.Presently a Pakistan Peace delegation is on an Indian tour,but is not given much media[TV]Coverage.
    http://www.hindu.com/2009/03/06/stories/2009030656451200.htm
    Mushraf is considered by most sane Pakistanis[see above link] as the primary culprit [along with former dictator Zia ]in encouraging Taliban and promoting mullah-army nexus.Please read Ahmed Rashid’s Books,whom you quoted.
    US always likes dictators/monarchs and Army rule because it becomes easy to secure American economic and political interests.Thats why there is no democracy in Oil rich Gulf States.They used Pak army and Taliban against USSR,and later used Afghan war lords against Taliban. But now they realise the threat of Taliban and is now trying hard to defeat them.But the presence of US army and the drone attacks are turning ppl towards Taliban.Pak army want Taliban to win in Aghanistan,[because they fear Karzai is pro-India]but loose in Pakistan.
    Taliban want to win in Pak,Afghanistan,Kyrgisthan,Turkmenistan, Uzbekisthan,Chechnya [in Russia] and Xinjiang [in China] and also in Kashmir.If the dictators of the above Central Asian Countries do not democratise soon,Taliban style revolt will topple them and world will have a bigger problem.
    A joint effort,setting aside their differences by USA,EU,Russia,China,Iran,liberal leaders of Pakistan and Afghanistan etc is needed to stop Taliban.

  31. Indyeah permalink
    March 6, 2009 9:48 am

    Manju:-:)thanks..lately I seem to have become a news junkie:D
    have no idea why:)

    yup to each nation its own..and India can only think about India right now

    Chirag:-yes really disturbing in the long run as you say Chirag..though I cant see india and China getting together ever…
    but if the threat becomes too much who knows?the world may have to unite..*Sigh*and I have doubts on that score too…
    dont see anybody doing anything or uniting at all..:(

    seems like a farfetched dream at times:(

  32. Indyeah permalink
    March 6, 2009 9:53 am

    Biju Mathews:-Thanks:)
    yes trying times and Pakistan is responsible for getting itself into this mess…

    oh!but they have blamed Biju!India very categorically..one minister has said it in as many words…the good thing is that noone has paid much attention to such talk,but some sections of the Paksitani media too is talking about the ‘foreign hand ‘ angle very quietly..

    you are right about the political battle…who will win?will there be any Pakistan left to win or is it headed towards being the same way?Afghanistan’s way?

  33. Indyeah permalink
    March 6, 2009 9:58 am

    Solilo:-I know SOlilo..:(
    I also have nothing much to say…
    and true south asia is turning into a warzone and that too the war of terrorism rather than on terrorism..

    its just baffling right now…

    so presented all the links here..thanks:)

    Mandira:-Thank you:))so much:)
    yeah I love it too:D
    and Chirag’s the brains behind this one:)

    yes,USA is to be blamed for creating a lot of these monsters and now none seems to be in its control…and yes we are all bearing the brunt of this..who will stop it?or rather who all will stop it?or wil we at all?:(
    I doubt it ..

  34. Indyeah permalink
    March 6, 2009 10:02 am

    Kislay:-thats an interesting observation..I have no idea of Pakistan’s geography..but I dont think any nation would like being broken up..

    though in pakistan’s case this could become a grim reality…has become a grim reality infact…when you are not able to control a part of your territory and instead bow down to extremists what else can it be called?

    I really hope that a solution comes out …or else india too will suffer..:(

  35. Indyeah permalink
    March 6, 2009 10:08 am

    Charakan:-no,I dont mind at all..:)..you are always welcome

    yes they are like us..and that was the intention of the post ..to highlight the sane voices..so thank you so much..
    thanks for the link and the recommendation of books..will try to get them…

    ”US always likes dictators/monarchs and Army rule because it becomes easy to secure American economic and political interests.”
    completely agree coz this one statement makes a lot of sense..

    thanks for sharing in such detail Charakan

    this is a more concise explanation of the matter..
    ”If the dictators of the above Central Asian Countries do not democratise soon,Taliban style revolt will topple them and world will have a bigger problem.”
    this scenario looks scary…

    ”A joint effort,setting aside their differences by USA,EU,Russia,China,Iran,liberal leaders of Pakistan and Afghanistan etc is needed to stop Taliban.”
    I really really doubt it…because until and unless this threat does not affect these countries these countries will be theleast bothered..:(
    the world does not realize the time bomb it sitting on..everyone is out to protect their own interests…

  36. rauf permalink
    March 6, 2009 2:31 pm

    you can’t have a snake as a pet, it will bite you one day.

    There has never been a sensible government in Pakistan Abhi. They have terrorist manufacturing factories the way US has manufactured dictators over the years. Home grown terrorists have hit back at them and it is bound to happen.

    Pakistan is called ‘ America ka Chamcha’ from day one, a side kick.
    These poor misguided souls who willing to blow themselves up in the name of Allah, are unaware that their headquarters are in Langley. And their boss is a friend of CIA. US needs terrorists. They can’t grow the toxic crop in the US, Pakitan comes in handy and it is too willing. They don’t even know from where their weapons are coming from. Poor guys are fighting for Allah.

    Taalib-e-ilm, in short, Taalib, a seeker of knowledge. Talib is a student in other words. Talibaan is plural. But these guys are illiterates. They read Khurraan like a parrot without knowing its meaning. They can’t read actually, they mug it up.

    US needs an enemy at any given time. After the collapse of Communism they had to manufacture an enemy. 9/11 was planned and executed by the CIA, but they messed it up, i have written a post
    titled ‘Marketing 2’ Abhi, its not very long please read it.

    Now what is CIA ? They don’t actually serve US government alone. They are mostly funded by giant corporates who want globalisation stuffed down the throats of the unwilling. They create insecurity in the third world. India is a victim of their work. There is a post on this as well.

    Pakistan was India, Same people.
    Why they are shattered now ? Because they allowed themselves to be manipulated by US.

    India was invaded repeatedly for its natural resources, abundance of water, 365 days of sunshine. India is a rich country. Are we ? We are still begging with all the wealth and skill in our backyard.
    Both the countries can sit together and take care of the top priorities but they can’t. It is the job of CIA to create insecurity. To create communal riots our own politicians are funded by the CIA. Please read Bob Woodward’s Veil. They don’t want India to come up Abhi.
    Well china is a different story. i’ll tell you later.

  37. rauf permalink
    March 6, 2009 2:33 pm

    i really regret posting a comment when i see comment moderation Abhi.

  38. Indyeah permalink
    March 7, 2009 5:18 am

    Rauf:-”you can’t have a snake as a pet, it will bite you one day.”
    hmmm..I do agree to an extent Rauf..though I think the ordinary Pakistani will be offended if we compare his country to a snake whether true or not:)

    yes the alliances fromed during the cold war still seem to be thriving well…

    ”They can’t grow the toxic crop in the US, Pakitan comes in handy and it is too willing.”
    This I belive…for what else is a superpower going to do?

    Consolidate its super power status…and thats what the US is doing so cleverly…

    the CIA theory seems a bit far fetched to me Rauf …
    who knows?maybe a few years down the line you may well be proved right..:)

    the CIA is quite capable of doing many things….9/11 ?I dont know…

    ”Pakistan was India, Same people.
    Why they are shattered now ? Because they allowed themselves to be manipulated by US.”
    This is quite true I think…

    I will come and read all these posts of yours in a bit..:)

    Rauf one of these days I have to do a post on my fav blogs where I have to thank Winnie for leading me to yours and then introduce you to my friends here:))

    about comment moderation rauf..a necessary evil:(
    after my post on PCC,I had to do it…before that it was open..because I know its awesome to read one’s own comment as it gets published..:)

    but now there’s no other way Rauf…trolls abound..

  39. Indyeah permalink
    March 7, 2009 6:37 am

    sorry Rauf that should have read as the ordinary pakistani will not like being called the keepers of a ‘snake’..I assume you are referring to the taliban?

    🙂
    I commit such ghastly mistakes while typing..

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